tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-626162062588121300.post301133635253932728..comments2024-01-23T10:21:10.258-08:00Comments on Libi BaMizrach: A Post Hareidi Election: Can We Achieve Freedom?YLOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13689893295605516727noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-626162062588121300.post-51375506134560415952013-04-14T08:29:32.284-07:002013-04-14T08:29:32.284-07:00Outstanding post as well as the the more complete ...Outstanding post as well as the the more complete essay that I found. I think it is time for the silent majority to stand up and unite and not allow ourselves to be hijacked by the extreme of the Eida Charedus and the Chareidi movement. I would suggest we call ourselves Yerai'im and demonstrate that we are every bit as "Frum" as Chareidim, if not "Frummer". We are Machshiv Torah every bit as much as the Chreidim, if not more. We are Ovdai HaShem who live our lives under the banner of Deracheha Darkai Noam! Now we need Gedolai Yisrael to have the courage to sign up and lead us. I spoke to a very respected Gadol B'Yisrael who shall remain nameless, but believe me he is a leading Gadol about a similar issue. He told me, today I am considered a Gadol, while I agree with you, if I would state that publicly, I would be "Ois Gadol" ... there is the real rub... We can categorize ourselves, we can call ourselves whatever we want, without a Manhig to give it credibility it is all for naught. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. CHAZAK V'EMATZ!Torah Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03106220935439713748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-626162062588121300.post-6330220637641602812013-03-25T11:21:22.315-07:002013-03-25T11:21:22.315-07:00Thanks for the support, Caren!
As for dl -- I do ...Thanks for the support, Caren!<br /><br />As for dl -- I do not assume that the "only" reason that many secular Israelis dislike chareidim is because of their political positions....obviously this is a long standing conflict and a quite complex one at that, with much water under the bridge on both sides.<br /><br />I maintain, nevertheless, that the main reason for the current situation is what I outlined in the essay.<br /><br />It also struck me when reading your comment that the same over-generalization that I pointed to in regard to "Chareidim" can be applied to "Secular Israelis" as well. You are certainly correct that there is a hard core group that is anti-religious and opposes any accommodation with the Chareidim, no matter what. But I strongly believe that is NOT the same group that generally voted for Yair Lapid and Yesh Atid; rather those are generally the Meretz, hard leftist types.<br /><br />There are, however, many secular Israelis today who are not as much anti-religious, and anti-being-friers, as I wrote. Most of what I have seen and read of Yair Lapid is not at all disrespectful of religion or Torah (as opposed to his father's views).<br />I think that any fair-minded person who saw Ruth Calderon's maiden speech/"shiur" to the Knesset, in which she demonstrated love for Torah, albeit not for Halachic practice, cannot help but observe that we are not dealing with "haters of Torah", but with those who are searching for Jewish meaning in their lives, and are totally unimpressed by the expression of it that they are seeing in the Chareidi world. This new phenomenon has been commented on several times in the secular press<br /><br />Perhaps I will write more about this in a follow up article. I thank you very much for sharing your views with me!<br /><br />YLO YLOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13689893295605516727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-626162062588121300.post-10400670036789247792013-03-24T20:38:56.526-07:002013-03-24T20:38:56.526-07:00"recent polls indicate “ that 76% percent of ... "recent polls indicate “ that 76% percent of the Israeli public support a coalition made up of the Likud, Yesh Atid and Bayit Yehudi” without Hareidim, and only “four percent of Israelis want a new government that would include the Likud together with the Hareidi parties”. This points to an abysmal failure on the part of the Hareidi public to persuade fellow Israelis of the beauty and integrity of their way of life –"<br /> The author assumes that the only explanation for secular Israelis' 'dislike' of chareidim is to be blamed on the political positions of Hareidim. I would encourage the author and readers to consider other possible reasons as well as the fact that secular Zionist's animosity towards traditional Jewry has existed far longer than the modern State of Israel dlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06441581720854294640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-626162062588121300.post-2882328198428157672013-03-24T13:58:34.544-07:002013-03-24T13:58:34.544-07:00You are correct.
There are many many in your catag...You are correct.<br />There are many many in your catagory.<br />I guess we have been called 'Charedi Lite'Caren Mayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02590832673904257320noreply@blogger.com